Residents, businesses sound off on downtown


Residents, businesses sound off on downtown


Date: September 12, 2013
by: David Conway | News Editor


As the City Commission wrapped up a discussion of the downtown noise ordinance Sept. 7, Mayor Shannon Snyder issued a stern warning to businesses that dared to violate the regulations.

“It’s real easy,” Snyder said. “If these guys aren’t going to comply, go get them in a room, and I’ll be more than happy to put it on the agenda to have liquor sales stop at 11 o’clock at night.”

Before that gauntlet was thrown down, the commission heard a presentation from the Sarasota Police Department. After a 90-day period during which the SPD focused on sound enforcement, Chief Bernadette DiPino suggested the end of the special sound detail, leaving noise regulations in the hands of regular patrol officers.

Residents and commissioners weren’t satisfied. The noise ordinance is constantly violated, they said. Police not only needed to continue to be vigilant with enforcement, but the consequences for violators needed to be steep.

Ambrish Piare is the owner of Ivory Lounge, one of three establishments city commissioners singled out as frequent violators of the noise ordinance. He says he’s not a defiant club owner thumbing his nose at the city, but someone looking for middle ground in an argument which so many are on the extremes.

He acknowledged a responsibility on his part to abide by the city’s laws. Despite the volume of complaints directed toward Ivory — including some made on days the nightclub is closed — Piare says they’ve received just one formal citation for noise violations. He’s flummoxed by the severity of the outcry from downtown residents and, now, from the commission.

“If there’s a sound violation, it needs to be immediately be followed up,” Piare said. “But, threatening with these extreme measures, I don’t see in any way how that helps.”

When talking to the commission last Tuesday, residents expressed weariness with dealing with what they consider to be an almost-constant violation throughout downtown on weekends. Seven speakers spoke on the topic, all upset by the noise. Some said the ordinance doesn’t go far enough, and that noise that doesn’t go over the decibel level outlined in the regulations can still be disturbing late at night.

Piare said he’s sympathetic to downtown residents upset by noise, but at the same time, people living downtown should be equally sympathetic to the needs of the businesses.

“(Downtown) has evolved, and it always had the intention to evolve, even when they purchased their buildings,” Piare said. “It’s evolving in a way where they don’t want it to go, which is understandable, but either we completely stop it or we try to make it work together.”

Although every person who spoke at the last commission meeting was for the stricter enforcement of noise regulations, Piare pointed out they were still just seven people. The problematic noise is, at least in part, a sign of these establishments’ popularity, and Piare wants the people who frequent bars and clubs downtown to make their voices heard just as loudly as anyone else’s.

“It’s time for the people who love downtown and want it to flourish to also speak on behalf of downtown,” Piare said. “Not to fight the residents who complain, but to work together.”

On the part of at least some downtown residents, Peter Fanning seemed to share some common ground with Piare. Fanning, president of the Downtown Sarasota Condominium Association, said he wanted to see the coexistence of residential units and nightlife, as well.

His request fell short of the most severe option the commission would later outline — he simply recommended the city add a permanent, dedicated sound-enforcement officer for downtown.

“The reason there was some improvement in compliance was because there was a consistent and fair process established by a dedicated enforcement group, establishing an expectation of enforcement,” Fanning said of the recent 90-day period when the SPD emphasized noise compliance.

Piare said he’s had fruitful conversations with the police department about working to cut down on noise issues. On Friday, he said, cops will take a baseline measurement, so Ivory management knows at what volume music should be set, and he mentioned a willingness to help fund a police officer to patrol the 1400 block of Main Street at night.

Although the rhetoric is stronger in the commission chambers, Piare said, it’s not as productive in developing a solution.

“I think, at this moment, it’s unfair. The picture that has been painted — we are solely to blame,” he said. “It’s really black and white, and these polarized discussions, they don’t help.”


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Currently 3 Responses

  • 1.
  • I do have info that a LOT of the buildings downtown do have a lot of code infractions, having to do with Windows and doors. That maybe a big reason why sound is still getting in to the condo's, maybe I will send out a big email to a few people and have them check in to it.
  • kevin ryan
    Mon 16th Sep 2013
    at 10:18pm
  • 2.
  • The noise downtown is not the problem...this is downtown. All city downtown areas are busy and noisy with the restaurants, pubs and's downtown. The criminals and vagrants that have taken over our beautiful park where residents can no longer enjoy the beautiful expensive lights are populated with drugs and criminals. The doorways of our businesses are camp grounds for criminals and vagrants. If noise is a bother to some, there are quiet beach communities and other communities that do not have businesses surrounding their home...they should move.
  • Christine Baer
    Mon 16th Sep 2013
    at 6:35pm
  • 3.
  • This quote "and that noise that doesn’t go over the decibel level outlined in the regulations can still be disturbing late at night." shows me two things:

    1) Some residents will not be happy until all sound is gone, an absurd expectation for someone who lives downtown.

    2) If people are bothered by the sound when it is below current regulations, perhaps someone needs to investigate to see if these residences are properly sound proofed in the first place. I have thought for a while that perhaps whomever built these buildings did not have install the necessary materials to properly soundproof the residences.
  • Michael Lunn
    Mon 16th Sep 2013
    at 2:33pm
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